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strykerdoc t1_j2u3idp wrote

Not a doctor. Former paramedic and current nursing student.

You are typically given two different drugs. One is for sedation, can be propofol (what killed Michael Jackson) or versed, or a couple others depending on doctor preference and local protocols. The other drug is a paralytic, so that you're not fighting the tube or mechanical breathing.

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beel11 t1_j2u33dp wrote

My guess: Therapeutic hypothermia potentially for next 48-72 hours. Let him wake up after that. Let him walk out of hospital within a week. Huge debate whether he needs a device (prob not) and whether he can play for the playoffs (maybe but who will have the balls to allow it). It’s more likely he plays next season instead if he does play again. If he’s not being cooled, then he gets extubated soon and we hear the good news.

This is all assuming CPR was adequate and initiated quick enough.

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loupr738 t1_j2u1iy5 wrote

I don’t know if it’s any different but if you remember the most recent UEFA European championship, Christian Eriksen suffered a cardiac arrest too and he had to be revived on the field. He was playing soccer a couple of months later, of course the NFL is a whole different animal but at least I hope the kid recovers his normal outside of the nfl life

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tkp14 t1_j2u0thq wrote

A couple of years ago I contracted a norovirus which was extremely unpleasant and causes a person to violently expel from both ends. (Such a charming experience.) I ended up being taken to the ER because the expelling would just not stop. They put in an IV to re-hydrate me and to give me antiemetic drugs. They also put in a nasogastric tube - a very thin, soft tube that goes in through the nose, down the throat, and into the stomach. They were concerned that the uncontrollable vomiting might start up again and suffocate me. The tube had to remain in for 24 hours, though I’ve read that often patients have to endure it for a lot longer. And “endure” is the right word. That skinny little tube hurt like a bitch. It put the whole “get Covid and wind up on a ventilator” in perspective. I cannot begin to imagine how awful a ventilator feels.

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RasputinsAssassins t1_j2u01gk wrote

They aren't going to wake him up from the coma until they think he can breathe on his own. They determine that by dialing back how much help the ventilator is providing.

They may bring him out long enough to ask a question and stick him with a pin to see if he still has cognitive function.

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aflickering t1_j2tzwl9 wrote

yeah. many of us were saying that once he gets the first one the floodgates are gonna open, and so it's proving! in terms of natural talent he's top 2 or 3 all time IMO, now he's got his head right i'll be quite surprised if this isn't the most common WC final pairing over the next decade.

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RasputinsAssassins t1_j2tzfn1 wrote

I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to find out.

A ventilator assists your breathing. It can do 100% of it for you, or it can do (I don't know the number) 10% of the breathing, and your body does the remaining 90%.

Again, I was a coma patient; I am not a medical; professional. A person who is sedated for something like a minor procedure (think a colonoscopy or an eye surgery) is awake and may be aware, or they may be simply put to sleep with drugs. Those folks can still breathe on their own and don't need a ventilator, because they are only partially sedated.

As you get more drugs for a deeper level of sedation, you breathing slows down.

A person who is put into a deeper level of sleep, like for a major surgery, may or may not get intubated with a ventilator. They may still be able to breathe on their own, but the drugs cause respiration to slow, and that can be dangerous, depending on what's happening. So they may go on a ventilator, if it is felt is needed.

A person who is medically induced is, I believe, usually intubated with a ventilator. They let the ventilator do the heavy lifting so the body can repair itself. Again, they heavy drugs slow respiration.

The ventilator does tit's work whether or not you are sedated. They sedate you because it's a scary friggin' experience to have a tube shoved down your throat, completely blocking it. It felt like a hard or corrugated plastic, and it was not pleasant. I began to freak a little, but they calmed me down enough to get their test done and then put me back under.

Those commercials that have been running in some areas of the US about not having a glass of wine with your Oxy? It's warning you because that combo is effectively sedating you to a level where your respiration can slow to a stop.

I do not remember anything about my coma, except a very weird thing when they put me back under. it's not the same as being asleep, IMO. I had no concept of the passage of time. I woke up five days later and thought it had been a couple of hours. I had a follow up surgery months later where I was just under general anesthesia for the surgery (knocked out) and it felt like I was out for 15 minutes. It had been 7 hours. I felt like Scott Lang in the Quantum World.

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