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BillBigsB t1_iss1mq4 wrote

I wrote an intricate reply then my phone died. So, you should read Three Waves of Modernity and peruse Nietzsche and Modern Times by Laurence Lampert. In short, science is not the category but the branch. In other words, the scientific method is a particular type of philosophy but it is not an exhaustive definition of the later. Philosophy, on the political level at least, fundamentally deals in Noble Lies. Moderns chose to alter the application of such but that doesn’t mean that all modern philosophy is scientific. Rousseau and Nietzsche, in particular, certainly are not.

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PseudoWarriorAU t1_iss1iqa wrote

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jackibthepantry t1_iss0jpd wrote

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NoPainMoreGain t1_iss0182 wrote

For me it's software development. I'm sure it depends both on the person and the workplace. I've been lucky to find a place where I can work flexible hours without supervision and only completing tasks in adequate numbers matters.

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sosatrey t1_isrt47u wrote

one more benefit of doing nothing is one have a sufficient time to wait and observe the self also the surrounding. Everyone is so busy in such a way that no one care about nothing.

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BillBigsB t1_isrsjxb wrote

The point is not what the essay says, it is that Plato condemned the poets in place of philosophy — the argument is essentially that literature may seem philosophic but in reality it only invokes the emotions and thymos of the reader over the intellect (which is the true purpose of philosophy). In short, literature points to what appears to be while philosophy proper points to what is.

I did skim your essay, and at best you are giving only a superficial reading of a very complexed and intricate subject. First, philosophy is not — at its core — self-help and aphorisms. And katharsis has no real connection to philosophy. Aristotle was writing a normative analysis of the form of poetry and its appeal to human beings — outside of that it has no applicability to philosophy and, in fact, his teacher vehemently rejected such art forms in comparison to a love of sophia or a love for the highest order of knowledge attainable. Philosophy under its original definition, necessarily transcends the superficial katharsis of poetry (and literature by extension).

That is not to say there aren’t powerful arguments and esoteric readings of Plato to suggest different, but that would be to depart on a voyage that far exceeds the purpose of your essay.

To put it frank, if you don’t like philosophy that is fine and it just means you aren’t a philosopher, but the assertion that literature can exist in its place requires a much more nuanced evaluation than it appears you are capable of giving in your essay.

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mattg4704 t1_isrrltl wrote

Sometimes there's nothing more joyful than idling ones time away simply because it's your own time. There's no one to see nothing to do, no deadlines no expectations life's just pleasent doing nothing but what you want to do at that moment. I love those moments. Right now. I'm done with work my dogs at my side and I'm a lil high before I go to sleep whilst I write to you dear reader. Good night

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mynamesphill t1_isrpy0g wrote

My boyfriend just yesterday left me (sort of a mural agreement at the time) exactly because of some conflicts regarding some very self-aggrandizing work-related goals.

The first few minutes he was gone I just noticed the sound of the AC. I guess it had always made that sound, but I had never heard it.

We both worked from home (or he was looking for work rather) and I really wanted to move to a bigger city to chase larger opportunities. I never realized the sounds I’d have to live with in my new-found “freedom”.

What’s funny is that now that I’m “finally free”, by myself, I realize it just will never end.

With the full freedom to do all those things I wanted to do, I can’t think of anything I’d want to do less than pursue all the hopelessly tiring efforts of climbing the academic and corporate ladder just so I can post photos in front of more interesting landscapes, nicer cars or clothes, and have people say “dr” or whatever before they say my name.

I guess we’re all free to choose our own slavement.

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eemschillern t1_isrpsne wrote

Not spending all your time being productive does not mean you can’t be productive at all. In Dutch culture it is pretty common to do nothing regularly, we call it “niksen” (literally translated nothinging). It’s just a way to spend some of your free time. You don’t always have to do something productive but can also eg stare out the window for a while.

Niksen Is the Dutch Lifestyle Concept of Doing Nothing

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-VILN- t1_isrpbpa wrote

Capitalism has forced a way of life onto us that isn't compatible with the animals that we are. We are no different from a squirrel or a moose except that other humans have created systems on top of systems that do nothing but grind us up for their monetary gain. We are forced daily to participate in these systems because we're constantly forced to compare ourselves, our material wealth, our beauty all the while capitalism is what's defining those terms. Even the very idea that some of us are non conformist is literally just another controlled outlet. They've taken everything.

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zombipwnr45 t1_isromva wrote

Dang. I was JUST thinking that.

That is crazy to see that someone who also saw this post at this point in their life makes a comment that sounds like something I would be commenting in here. We’re about the same age, I think.

How do you fill your days dealing with the ying and yang of that kind of lifestyle? New hobbies? Reading? TV? Side hustles?

I deal with that constantly, accepting that nothing is okay, and then what? I don’t want to stare at a wall for extended periods, what’s beneficial, how well should I be using my time? Crazy.

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